Krishna Seva

Pushtidas · Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:26 am Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna

I can’t let the fourth or rather the tenth personality-type without mentioning here. So the tenth personality-type Gopis are known as ‘nirguna’. Nirguna are ‘who is free of the three qualities of worldly existence'. The simple translation is ‘transcendent’ and really this is precisely what nirguna means. And dear vaishnavs in this case there is no ambiguity or language difficulty. (He-he Palnaji you love this translations, don’t you!).

Now after analysing all differences in Gopis personalities we can imagine how Shree Krishna plays with different emotions and instigates his games and leelas with these Gopis. I am sure Krishna love varieties and hence, variety is the spice of leela.

When we look at the emotions which were portrayed by Nandbaba, can anyone tell what category does he belong to?
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Nital · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna,

I'm going to be daring and take a guess...is he nirghun and rajas bhav?!

Gopi Geet is a pleasure to read...

JSK
Nital

Sital · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna

Thanks Pusthidasji for your prompt reply, you've cleared my confusion

Its a pleasure to see you on tibari Nitalji, I will take a guess as well...........Nirgun.......Sattva Rolling Eyes

Thanks Again

JSK
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Sital

palna · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:34 am Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna,

I was rereading Pushtidasji's previous posting and thought that

Sital · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 12:55 pm Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna

Palnaji, thanks for prompting this question, as I understood that when a devotee is in Sanyog with Thakorji they are Nirgun and thereafter it depends on each individual, how intense one’s devotion is and at what stage.

The Gopigeet Geet was sung after the Maharaas, which denotes the Gopi’s had previously experienced closeness with Thakorji. If they had all converted to being completely Nirgun then why was each stanza’s sung by a selected group according to their characteristics? Is there various phases in Nirgun then? Also only a number of gopi’s ended up with the Laghu Raas, others joined the Maharaas again which in my opinion also indicates various stages of bhakti.

Vaishnavs please join in with some feedback

JSK
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Sital

Nital · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:57 pm Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna,

Just to say that I look forward to the answer and it's wonderful explanation...(hint hint Pushtidasji!)

Palnaji, your explanation about the nirghun bhav made sense to me as initially I thought the same as you but having read over what Pushtidasji had written made me come to the same conclusion as Sitalji...but then asgain, I maybe wrong - let's wait for an ardent vaishnav to put our queries to rest....

JSK

Pushtidas · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 10:08 am Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna

Thank you Nitalji, I take the hint and the heed. Yes Palnaji, here is the request and clearance.

This is what Sitalji asked:

Nital · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:20 am Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna,

Thankyou Pushtidasji for your explanation, it has cleared up the confusion... however, I am still eagerly waiting for the answer as to what Nandbaba's bhav is?

JSK

palna · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna,

Yes, Thankyou Pushtidashjji, all doubts are cleared. I enjoyed the posting!
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Sital · Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:51 am Post subject:

Jai Shree Krishna

Thanks Pusthidasji, thoroughly enjoyed reading your superb explanation. Whilst Comparing these gunn and analysing human nature another question arose in my mind (Sorry) Embarassed

. Is it not true that we possess all three of these characteristics, even though one or two is more transparent and dominant than the other? Does this indicate that the Nirgun group was top-notch as they were completely transcendental and infused all 3 gunn spiritually towards Thakorji?

I remember at satsang we discussed that Tamus, Rajas and Sattva souls posses 84 gunn each, however nirguna soul possesses their own 84 gunn in addition to Tamas, Rajas and Sattva gunn, when added together, denotes they hold 336 gunn.

What happened to the Nirguna group when Thakorji left them and hid in their heart, as they were Nirgun by nature? Which original characteristics did they adopt when Thakorji vanished?

I hope my question is clearly phrased, if not then please let me know

Thanks

JSK
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Sital