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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:20 pm    Post subject: Golokdham me nitya Lila Reply with quote

Golokdham me mani-ratno se su-shobhit Giriraj Shri Govardhan hai. Vaha Giriraj ki kandara me Shri Govardhan-nathji Shri Swaminiji aur Vraj bhakto ke yutho ke saath rasmayi lila karte hai.

Yah nitya lila hai, jo sada akhand chalti rahti hai. Vaha acharyaji Mahaprabhu Shri Vallabhadhish bhi sada sarvada Shri Thakurji ki seva karte hai.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nitya lila me shri mahaprabhuji ka swaroop sakshaat hai ya shri swaminiji ke swaroop se hai?aur agar sakshat hai to 84 vaishnav ka swaroop kaisa hai.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mahaprabhuji ko Prakatya ki Agya

Ek baar Shri Thakorji ne Acharya Mahaprabhu ko daivi jeevo ka uddhar karne ke liye dharti par prakat hone ki agya dii. Shri Mahaprabhuji Shri Thakorji ka viyog Kshan bhar bhi sahan nahi kar sakte hai isliye Shri Thakorji ne unhe Shri Swaminiji, Vraj bhakto ke yutho aur saari lila samagri ke saath vraj me prakat hone ka ashvasan diya.

Isliye Garg Samhita ke Giriraj khand me yaha kahaa gaya hai ki Bhagwan Shri Krishna ne jis roop se Giriraj Shri Govardhan ko dharan kiya tha, usi roop me ve Giriraj ki gufa me se sabhi logo ke samne apne aap prakat honge. Unhe bhakt jan, ShriNathji ya Devdaman ke naam se pukarenge. Kaliyug me prakat hone vaale iss swaroop ke jo darshan karenge, ve krutaarth ho jayenge.

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Below is a humble attempt to address the two potent questions....
we hope others will also be able to help clarify and provide further detailed explanations...

Shri Mahaprabhuji's Dhyaan states that aapshris form is
"Roopam tat-tritayaatmakam" - Aap shri's form in nitya leela is indpendent, but that form is made up of three combined together, as it is also stated in Shri Sarvottam Stotram - Shri Krishna Swayam Krupanidhi
- Shri = Swaminiji, Krishna = Krishna himself, and swayam - Aapshri Himself.

The lila samagri mentioned above includes the 84 vaishnavs, they are considered to be Shri Ang Shrushti of Thakorji (Shri Mahaprabhuji's)

Shri Mahaprabhuji's 12 ang x 7 (6 dharmas, aishvarya, veerya, yasha, shree, gyaan, vairagya + dharmi aapshri himself) = 84.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank u jagdishji for explanation:-) & i would like to know as much as possible about nityalila.jsk
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna,

Gauravji, please could you kindly elaborate...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

umm...i m sorry but are u asking about that deleted post.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

i meant if you coud elaborate on all the nitya lilas - perhaps give examples by listing them so we can find out about them in details
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jai shree krishna.

I've got very little knowledge of nityalila. so i have tried to list a few topics which i would like to know about .
1. 3rd youth(which is of radha sahchariji / kumarikas / shruti rupa gopis)
2. 8 dwars in raas lila
3. Relation between 3 swaroop of jiv (i.e between adhi deivik,adhyatmik and adhi bhoutik.do they exist together.)
4. Snaan of thakurji happens in nandalay or by antarang gopis.
5. Golokdham and vraj (is vraj golokdham or part of it.)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

Gauravji, This is very good - thank you.

for an indepth understanding of these subjects we need to approach our gurudev and approach the appropriate texts.

we hope more information will be available here in the near future.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai shri krushna / jai shri Vitthal...

Its very difficult to write on all points.... But here is some information about the 8 dwars.... I would be able to write only main points.... And would be thankful if the senior vaishnavas please elaborate on this......

There are mukhya 8 dwars in Shri Giriraj ji

1st dwar :

Location : Surbhi kund par Shyam tamal ka vriksha
Mukhya of this dwar : Shri Parmanand Dasji
Nitya lila me Sakha roop : Tok Sakha
Nitya lila me sakhi roop : Chandra sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : In Baal lila

Aur ye Shri Giriraj ji ka Shravan Sthan hai.


2nd dwar :

Location : Mansi Ganga par Pipal ka vriksha
Mukhya : Shri Nand Das ji
Sakha roop : Bhoj sakha
Sakhi roop : Indu lekha sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Kishor lila me

Ye Shri Girirajji ka Udar sthan hai.


3rd dwar :

Location : Airavat kund par Gowind swamiji ki kadamb khandi
Mukhya : Shri Gowind swmiji
Sakha roop : Shri Dama
Sakhi roop : Bhamaa sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Hindola lila

Ye shri giriraj ji ka Netra sthan hai.


4th dwar :

Location : Anyor me Sadu Pandey ji ka ghar
Mukhya : Shri Kumbhan dasji
Sakha roop : Arjun sakha
Sakhi roop : Vishakha sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Nikunj lila

Ye Shri Giri raj ji ka Hriday sthan hai.


5th dwar :

Location : Chandra sarovar
Mukhya : Shri Sur dasji
Sakha roop : Krushna sakha
Sakhi roop : Champak lata sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Maan lila

Ye Shri Giriraj ji ka Mukharvind sthan hai.


6th dwar :

Location : Rudra kund par Aamli ka vrikdha.
Mukhya : Shri Chaturbhuj das ji
Sakha roop : Subaahu sakha
Sakhi roop : Sushila sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Ankutt lila

Ye Shri Giriraj ji ka Hast kamal sthan hai.


7th Dwar :

Location : Apsara kund par Shyam tamal ka vriksha.
Mukhya : Shri Chitt swami
Sakha roop : Subal sakha
Sakhi roop : Padma sakhi
Vishesh aasakti : Shringar lila

Ye Shri Giriraj ji ka Kati sthan hai.


8th Dwar :

Location : Bilchu kund par Shyam tamal ka vriksha
Mukhya : Shri Krushna das ji
Sakha roop : Rushabh sakha
Sakhi roop : Lalita sakhi.
Vishesh aasakti : Raas lila

Ye Shri Giri raj ji ke Charnarvind ka sthan hai.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krushna / Jai shri yamune...

Jagdish bhai and Gaurav bhai... are you both talking about examples in the sense of prasangs....??????

I guess then for prasangs one should refer kirtans.... Here in India its winter, and so Sheet kal ke pad, then Sheet kal ke bhog aaive ke pad, Bhog saraive ke pad.... then in Khandita ke ke pad and in many more there are prasangas about nikunj lila....

See here is one of them.....
Well its not in Sheet kaal ke pad but.....





Baithe hari kunj bhavan apne rang
Kar murli adhar dhari, Saarang mukh gaai.....(1)

Mohan ati hi sujaan, param chatur gun nidhaan
Jaan buj ek taan chuk ke bajaai.....(2)

Pyari jab gahyo been, sakal kala gun praveen
Ati naveen roop sahit, vahi taan sunaai......(3)

Vallabh Giridharan laal reej dai ank maal
Kahat bhaley - bhaley laal sundar sukh daai.....(4)





Here in this kirtan... Shri Thakurji shri Swaminiji ke sang kunj bhavan me biraaj rahe hai. Thakurji chahte hai ki aaj Shri Swaminiji ki bajaai hui been ( a type of instrument ) unhe sun ni hai. Lekin ab thakurji sidhe - sidhe to kuch nahi bol sakte.....ki aaj aap kripa kar been bajaye....

Isliyea " kar murli adhar dhari, saarang mukh gaai..."
yani Shri Thakurji ne apni murli adhar par dhar ke Saarang raag bajaya.....

"Mohan ati hi sujaan, param chatur, gun nidhaan..." yani prabhu bohot sujaan hai. Param chatur hai. Gun ke nidhaan hai.....

"jaan buj ek taan chuk ke bhajaai...." yani prabhu ne jaan buj ke ek taan ( tune ) miss kar di.....

"Pyari jab gahyo been, sakal kala gun praveen.... ati naveen roop sahit, wahi taan sunaai...."

Iska arth hai ki jo tune thakurji ne skip kar di.... wo correct karne ke liyea Shri Swaminiji jo ki 'sakal kala gun praveen hai'.......unhone wo 'been' uthaai aur apne hi alag andaz me "ati hi naveen roop sahit" wahi taan correct karke fir se sunaai........ Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Then Vallabh Girdhar reej dai ank maal.... aur kahat 'bhaley - bhaley laal' sundar sukh daai...... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna,

Thank you for sharing the same. you are quite right nitya lilas are nicely described in the respective kirtans...

grateful for clarifications on the following

- the 3rd youth of kumarikas/shruti rupa gopis - ananyapurva - they have direct connection with the Lord

the other group is Rishi rupas - anyapurva and they did the katyayani vrat to obtain the Lord...

- relation between the 3 swaroops of jeev - Adhi daivik, adhyatmik, adhi bhautik

as per my limited understanding, these terms are used for bhagwad swaroops and not normally for the jeev - however there may be a connection in the term "sad-chid-anand" - normally the jeev has sad and chid but not anand

- when the jeev becomes bhagwad mai (bhagvadiya, tadrashi, tadaiya, etc) their swaroop is one and the same at all times - and so their adhidaivik, adhyatmik and adhibhautik swaroops exist together all the time as they are alokik at all times - for sadharan jeevs, this is not the case and they become filled with alokik bhav (bhav-avesh) only when having bhaav-poorvak satsang and become engrossed in bhagvad lilas

- example in the vartas is when bhagvadiyas do satsang and they loose track of time/body etc for 3 days as they are in nitya lila...
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jai shri krushna / jai shri vallabh....

Thank you for explanation jagdishji.... Well i think gauravaji asked for the 8 dwars in raas lila and somehow i thought about the 8 dwars of shri giriraji. So are the 8 dwars in giriraj ji and 8 in raas lila same or different... ?????????????
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jai Shri Krishna

it would make sense to have the 8 dwars around Girirajji as Girirajji is the playground for Thakorji's leelas.

awaiting further clarifications and elaborations on the same
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