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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
When Shri Thakurji requested third time to come to golok Shri Mahaprabhuji finally decided that it is now time to go and He just wanted to enter into Tridanda Sanyas at Kashi near the river Ganges, which means three sacrifices ie., Renouncement of Domestic Pleasure, Abnegation of Food, and Relinquishment of Speech.
This cannot be performed without the permission from the lady of the house and upon his request she refused.
So Shri Mahaprbahuji being Agni Swarup created fire and made the whole house go on fire and immediately he heard her shouts similar to "BHAGO" "DORO"
meaning run go away well that was enough for Shri Mahaprabhuji to think his wishes were now fulfilled and he got the permission to leave the house.
Hence he left the house to accomplish his goal. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:34 pm Post subject: |
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Jai JAi Shri Gokulesh,
Ready for the next one well this one is easy so lets all join in
What were the four requests of the Rushi Roopa Gopis when they sang the Gopi Geet.
Artiji, hint for you the answer is in GOPI GEET. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 6:01 am Post subject: |
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jai jai shri gokulesh
vasantji i have no book to read the GOPI GEET in detail so i was reading the topic GOPI GEET posted in this satsang fprum by Pustidasji. where i could find out that there are total 19 shlokas in GOPI GEET amonst 11,12,15,16,17,18 and 19 is sung by Shruti-roop gopis.
I have Shrimad Bhagwatji (Gita press) in hindi. This is the simple translation. so i could guess only one request
Shruti-roop gopi request that we don't need this EYE-LIDS it obstruct our continuos vision of shri thakurji.
Dear vaishnavas plz. help me. _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Sital CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Vasantji, you don’t ask easy questions…………… I’ll give it a go, the gopi’s said:
• Dayita Dhrusyatam: They asked for his darsan
• Asked for vraj instead of vaikunth
• Asked for Thakorji to place His charnavind on their hearts
• Asked for him not to walk barefoot in Vraj
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh, Jai Shri Krishna
Artiji, you are doing good and failure is always a stepping stone to success.
What you said was a complain made by the gopis to Shri Thakurji that there should be no eye lids.
Sitalji you got 2 correct their second request was Dayita Dhrusyatam: They asked for his sakshaat darsan
Number 3 was they requested Shri Thakurji to put his charnarvind on their vastha sthal (chest.)
I am still looking for their 1st and final 4th request. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Sital CEO
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:52 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Mmmhhh two out of four: wonder if the other two answers are somewhere below
1. Gopi’s aked Kanha to lay His hands on their head
2. To graciously accept them as His servants.
3. Give them the gift of life by giving the divine nectar from His lips
4. Fill them with your soul filling notes which drop like ambrosia from the flute
5. Grant them a small quantity of some type of remedy (medicine) that will put an end to the
ache of that pain in their heart.
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Wow ! Sitalji you got it all congrats!!
1st one was Aapna Hath Mastak upar padarao -- Place your hands on our head
4th one was Adramrut no paan karova _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
Joined: 14 May 2009 Posts: 92 Location: Gurgaon-India
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:09 am Post subject: |
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jai jai shri gokulesh
Congrates Sitalji for getting all the answer.
Now vasantji will give us new question.......... _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:32 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna, Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
Once Shri Naradji asked Shri Thakurji that why you give away mukti easily but you do not give Bhakti?
We all saints request all to do bhakti and there are so many disturbances due to your maya in kal-jug why the distractions? Why people cannot do bhakti with concentration so they may achieve you ?
How can they get BHAKTI?
Please answer what Shri Thakurji replied.
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Vasant Punjabi. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Location: India
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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,
Raahab pitar gurur alam bhavatam yadunam
daivam priyah kalu-pitah kva cha kirikaro vah |
astv evam ariga bhagavan bhajatam mukundo
muktim dadati karhichit sma n bhaktiyogam ||
ShriBhagwat 5.6.18
Anvayarth :
rajan — O my dear King;
patih— maintainer;
guruh — spiritual master;
alam — certainly;
bhavatam— of you;
yadunam— the Yadu dynasty;
daivam— the worshipable Deity;
priyah— very dear friend;
kula-patih — the master of the dynasty;
kva cha — sometimes even;
kirikarah— servant;
vah— of you (the pandavas);
astu — to be sure;
evam — thus;
anga— O King;
bhagavan— the Supreme Personality of Godhead;
bhajatam— of those devotees engaged in service;
mukundah — the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead;
muktim — liberation;
dadati— delivers;
karhicit — at any time;
sma — indeed;
na — not;
bhakti-yogam — loving devotional service.
Meaning :-
ShriSukhdevji gives orders to King Parikshit :- My dear King, the Supreme Person, Mukunda, is actually the maintainer of all the members of the Pandava and Yadu dynasties. He is your spiritual master, worshipable Deity, friend, and the director of your activities. To say nothing of this, He sometimes serves your family as a messenger or servant. This means He worked just as ordinary servants do. Those engaged in getting the Lord's favor attain liberation from the Lord very easily, but He does not very easily give the opportunity to render direct service unto Him.
This passage from Shrimad Bhagwatji's 5th canto gives us that how topmost is Devotion (Bhakti). God is ready to give Mukti (liberation), but not so pios to deliver devotion so easily. _________________ Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
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unnati CEO
Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Posts: 423 Location: Mumbai India
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:29 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Very nice flow... all d topics r very much intresting... learning a lot... _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:51 am Post subject: |
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jai jai shri Gokulesh
By my littele learning, Mukti can be get by doing SADHAN which is mentioned in VED or oter spiritul literature.
But Bhakti can be done only by bhagwat kripa...........and when a JIV is betowed with bagwatkripa he/she will get the GURU.
But still i am not getting the appropiate answer i am writing a doha from Shri Ram charit Manas.
"Aisi Bhakti Kar Ghat Bhitar, Chor kapat chaturai
Seva Bhakti Aur Adhinta Sahaj Mile Raghurai" _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
I am very pleased with the answers as Gopalbhia said if Shri Thakurji gives away bhakti then God becomes the Das (servant) as He will have to protect his Bhakt from all calamities. But if he gives Mukti (Liberation) then He is not bound to do what bhakt needs.Hence they say Shri Thakurji is Kanjuice (Miser) in giving Bhakti as He does not want to becme Das.
Good example is given in Shrimad Bhagwad and everybody knows that Draupadi was a bhakt and had gained bhakti. At the time of the war Bhisma Pita requested Duryodhanna to send his wife so he could give blessings to her that she will not become widow. Shri Krishna knowing this immediately told Draupadi to cover her head and rush to Bhishma Pita's camp and get that Aashirwaad. As even Bhisma Pita was a bhakt and God has to honor what he wishes.
Draupadi knew that the guards may catch her as by looking at her sandals they would know who she is and she could be caught in enemy camps so she refused to go but Shri Thakurji said that He will carry her sandals till the tent of Bhisma and she should just cover her head and rush with him to Bhismas's tent. She did exactly what Shri Krishna requested and Shri Krishna had to become Draupadi's das by carrying her sandals which she needed to wear before going in the tent of Bhisma who thinking Duryodhanna has sent his wife and he gave the blessings that she will not become widow.
Hence Draupadi's all 5 husbands lived after the war. As Shri Krishna fulfilled Bhisma Pita's wish that Draupadi will not become widow.
How can one get Bhakti was well said by Artiji only tadave viashnavs (bhaktas) can only get us into bhakti and Shri Thakurji listens to them so bhagwadia kripa is very very important and satsang with them is a must. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Arti Gujrati Vaishnav
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:11 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri Gokulesh
very nice satsang is going on. Thanks all the vaishnavas for participating.
I have next que.
why we do ARTI after each Darshan e.i. "Mangla Arti"
What is Bhav behind that _________________ krishna ev gatirmamm
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unnati CEO
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:42 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh,
Aarti:
During the complete daily seva routine (Nitya Seva), total four aartis are done to Shree Prabhu. The two of them with the MatruBhav and the other two with the bhav of MadhuryaBhav i.e. Sahchari Bhav.
Time of Aarti:
Mangala Aarti (morning) & Sandhya Aarti (With Matrubhav)
Rajbhog Aarti & Shayana Aarti (Sahchari bhav)
These aartis are of two types:
Thaali aarti:
This aarti is in the dish of bronze or silver and is artistically decorated with paintings on it. The Deepaks are placed which could be of 4-8-16 Baatis.
Khand Aarti:
These aartis are of 3 Khandas.
First Khand: 4 Batis
Second Khand: 7 Batis
Third Khand: 9 Batis
Why to do Aarti?
“Amangal Nivrtuyartha Mangalavaptaye Tatha, Krumarartikam Ten Prasiddhah Purushottamahah”
The Aarti is done 4 times a day i.e. each four prahars. The objective of aarti is to remove the evil glances on Shree Prabhu.
Types of Baatis:
First Khand: Four Baatis: Pramaan, Pramey,Saadhan and Fal
Second Khand: 7 Baatis: Pramey, Bhakti, Asakti, Aavesh, Vyasan, Fal and Pranay
Third Khand: 9 Baatis: Navadha BHakti. 1. Shravan 2. Kirtana. 3. Smaran 4. Paad Sevan 5. Archana 6. Vandan 7. Dashya 8. Sakhya 9. Atmanivedanam
Why Mukhiyaji does the aarti from right side, while the Goswami Balaks do it exactly before Shree Prabhu i.e. Sanmukh ??
Mukhiyaji does the aarti representing the Sahchari of Shree Chandravaliji Swaminiji, and Shree Chandravaliji’s place is on right side of Shree Prabhu, thus, Mukhiyaji does the aarti from right side since he is the sahchari. While Goswami Balaks are themselves Shree Swaminiji and thus they have the right to perform aarti right in the front of Shree Prabhu. i.e. in Sanmukh of Shree Prabhu.
Courtesy: Trutiyapeeth site. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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