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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: Shri Krishna and Shri Ram |
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We all are familiar with the Ramayan and Mahabharat and Shrimad Bhagvat.If we go through activities of Shri Ram and Shri Krishna during their stay on Bhutal there are so many contradictions.Some of them I am writting here.
Shri Ram Shri Krishna.
1)Parents were king 1)Parents were prisoners
2)Birth place palace 2)Birth place Prison
3)Eldest son 3)Eighth son.
4)He was only son of his mother 4)Mother had eight sons
5)Birth time 12 Noon 5)Birth time 12 mid night
6)Child hood passed in Rajmahal 6)Child hood as Gopal
7)He learnd how to use bow and arrow 7)Killed Putna when not even
from Vishvamitra and then Killed fifteen days old.
Tadka
8)Father ask RAM to go forest due to 8)Father aranged Krishna's
his commitment. When Ram was stay at Gokul from birth.
Young
9)Married Sitaji in Svyamvar 9)Kidnaped Rukminiji and then
married.
10)One marriage only 10)Married 16008 Ranies
11)Laksmanji younger brother always 11)Being younger never bother
obeyed Ram to consult Elder brother.
12)Never show Virat Svarup 12)About four times showed
Virat svarup
13)Build Shivji's Temple at Rameshvar !13)Fought with Shivji during
war with Banasur
14)During the war with Ravan, Ram fought 14)During Mahabharat war
himself Krishna did not took wepon
15)Never exibit him as God with super 15)Killing Putna and Vratasur
power ,Lifting Govardhan are
few deeds which only God
can do.
16)At the time of SVADHAM GAMAN 16)Did not take any body
took all the Ayodhyavasi with Him with Him.Not even Udhav
ji or Arjunji.
Please add more incidences which you may be knowing.
JAY SHRI KRISHNA
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
As I was not knowing how to keep partition between two lines. This topic is messed.Pushtidasji if you can make it right please do or remove my topic.
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Sital CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 478 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 11:01 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Wow, Excellent topic Dattubhaiji. These examples clearly portray vast differences between Maryada and Purna Purshottam. Ill had one of my favourite differences
Shree Ram = Well Behaved
Shree Krishna = Natkhat
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Nice to see you active Dattubhai hope you will keep up that spirit.
Shri Krishna was born with 16 kalas while Shri Rama with only 15 hence Shri Krishna was Purna Purshotama.
Shri Krishna's favourite instrument was FLUTE and now Dattubhai and all vaishnavs what was Shri Rama's favourite instrument????? _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Nital Vaishnav
Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 36 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna,
Dattubhaiji I wasn't aware of many of the points you have provided so thankyou for that - it was interesting to read. As I have limited knowledge about this, I'm not sure if the following will count but I'll give it a go as it sprung into my mind...
Ram showed everyone how to be a family man and how families should be/behave and our natkhat Krishna enticed the women (gopi's) who had a husband/family, towards Him thus making her feel that she doesn't want the family but only Krishna.
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Nitalji,Your try to add point is good.Well It is really a debating point.Gopi's hated family members or they avoided duties of family is never mentioned any where.To my knowledge Gopies had loved Shri Bal Krishna more than anybody else.
Vasantbhai with my limited memory I remember the favourate instrument of Shri Ram was Sitar(VEENA).
JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
Dattubhai. _________________ Jay Shri Krishna. |
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Good going Dattubhai.
Shri Rama had two sons (Luv and Kush) While Shri Krishna had ___________ (fill in the blank)
Also, lets see who can name their GURUS. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
Nitalji, Very same argument was done by Parikshitji to PU.Shukdevji Maharaj after hearing GOPI GEET and Maharas discribtion,and in the reply Shri Shukdevji said
Shri Krishna is Parmatma who is in everybody as SOUL(ATAMA). Whatever Krishna had done in Vrajleela is something beyond human understanding. Only few vaishnavs who are graced by Shri Thakurji can only enjoy the Leela's Tatparya.
Dattubhai. _________________ Jay Shri Krishna. |
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:04 am Post subject: |
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JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
IT seems vaishnavas are on summer vacation.
Vasantbhai let me fill up blanks.
Shri Ram had two sons Lav and Kush and Shri Krishna had 160080(All the queens have ten sons )
Name of Shri Ram's Guru 1)BhramRushi Vashisthaji 2)Shri vishvamitraji who taught Him Ashtra and Shashtra vidya.
Name of Shri Krishna's Guru Shri Shandipani Rushi.
Purpose of my topic was to have SMARAN of Leela's of Shri Thakurji.
Somany leelas still there left please try to recollect your memory.
Dattubhai. _________________ Jay Shri Krishna. |
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Good going Dattubhai and you are right there are a lot more
Shri Krishna could change and also give darshans like Shri Ram
But Shri Ram cannot change to Shri Krishna. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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gopal Vice President
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 237 Location: India
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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: |
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
The story of ShriRamchandraji is called as Ramayan, But story of ShriKrishnachandra is not called as ShriKrishnaaayan, it is ShriKrishna Leela. _________________ Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
The demons born in Rama avtar were killed by Lord Rama with bow and arrow and the same demons born in Krishna avtar were killed by Shri Krishna with Sudarshan Chakra.
Name the demons? _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
Vasantbhai,
It seems now I will have to reply,
Ravan and Kumbhakaran were killed by Shri Ramchandraji.Same demons took birth as Shishupal and Dantvakra but the difference was that their parents were different.
Name of the bow of Shri Krishna was SARANG.What was the name of Shri Ram's bow(DHANUSHYA)?
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Prashant Vaishnav
Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 86 Location: NJ, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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Shree Krishna lived for 125 years on this earth. How many years did Ram lived? _________________ Life can be lived in several ways but the quality of your life depends on the things to which you give priority
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Dattubhai Tibari Star
Joined: 03 Nov 2005 Posts: 104 Location: Vadodara. India
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:48 am Post subject: |
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JAY SHRI KRISHNA.
Prashanji,it is beyond our imagination but we have to believe our shastras
Shri Ramchandraji were on this bhutal for 11111 years(eleven thousand one hundred and eleven years).
What Shri Ram deed during his stay after killing Ravan and Kumbhakaran is not written in Ramayan.If any vaishnav knows please enlight.
I am waiting to hear name of shri Ram's bow.
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