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Jai Shri Krishna,
Wow, this is getting more interesting and exciting please all of you do continue----- _________________ Sunita Punjabi
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Mere gale ko haar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
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Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Now stanza 14.....
Bhogaha Shiven Mokshtu Vishnuneti Vinischayaha Lokepi Yat Prabhurmukte Tanna Yachhati Karhichita (14)
Bhogaha : Worldly physical emetics
Shiven : Through Shiva
Moksh : Salvation
Tu : And (That)
Vishnun : Through Vishnu
Eti : Like that
Vinischayaha : It is sure
Lok : Worldly happiness
Epi : But
Yat : That
Prabhur : Master
Mukte : What he enjoys
Tan : They
Na : Not
Yachhati : Give
Karhichita : To anyone _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Quote: | Bhogaha Shiven Mokshatu Vishnu neti Vinischayaha |
Lokepi Yat Prabhurmukte Tanna Yachhati Karhichita || (14) |
Bhogaha : Worldly physical emetics. Please see Bhog in which we described this entity. Here it is:
The emetics of Worldly physical (Emetics= a substance that causes vomiting) is that bhog when taken, will cause symptoms of emetics. We did speak of Sankhiya Moksha, now the Pashu Jiva Panch ratra suggest for Bhog, Moksha and fala are instigated by Shiva and Vishnu, so Brahma is the one to take charge of this fala. They are capable (Shaktau) to bestow this Moksha. Shree Naradmuni also reiterates this in his 'Narad-Panch ratra'. Please note these Moksha are 'samrthiya suchak' (only acquired according to one's ability) and not 'daan suchak' (is not bestowed but only given as per the Jive's deeds).
Shiven : Through Shiva. We did speak of Sankhiya Moksha, now the Pashu Jiva Panch ratra suggest for Bhog, Moksha and fala are instigated by Shiva and Vishnu, so Brahma is the one to take charge of this fala. They are capable (Shaktau) to bestow this Moksha. In Mahabharata there is a description of Mokshastra, and Moksha Dharma. These Shastra are Sankhiya, Yoga, Panchratra, Ved and Pashupat Gyan. In all above Shastra Shree Bhagvana (the two main forms of Bhagvana are Vishnu and Mahesh) are described as main gods who can insignificantly be the investiture (formal installation of deity in an official rank to bestow moksha). It is quite clear that Shiva gives enjoyment while Vishnu bestows liberation.
Moksha : Salvation, liberation.
Tu : And (That)
Vishnun : Through Vishnu. Vishnu bestows liberation.
Eti : Like that
Vinischayaha : It is sure
Loke : In worldly existence.
Epi : But
Yat : That
Prabhur : Master (Swami)
Mukte : What he enjoys. A powerful person in the world does not give away that which he cherishes most, except on rare occasion and even then, he would only give to someone who is very dear to him. As we discussed above, Shiva's greatest asset is liberation and Vishnu's great joy is His enjoyment with Laxmiji and this way Shiva gives enjoyment while Vishnu awards Liberation.
Tan : They (Vishnu and Shiva)
Na : Not
Yachhati : Give
Karhichita : To anyone. In reality, within the boundaries of Lokik life, to control and liaison "Pralaykatri Ghor Shakti" (The destructive and dangerous power and strength) and the nature and the sinful aptitude of disciples, Shiva do not reward liberation. In lokik, from Bhog, from material sins and other vile, Vishnu is independent, and thus His disciples do not indulge in Bhog of this nature, to these followers Vishnu bestows liberation. As Shiva is "treegun-yukta" (has three fold elements=Satvik, tamas and Rajas) Vishnu is "satvagun-yukta" (emulsified Satvik element) and Purna Purshottam instigates "Nirguna yukta" the utimale liberation known as Param Falam.
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It is quite clear that Shiva gives enjoyment and Vishnu bestows liberation. A powerful person does not give away that which he cherishes most, except on rare occasion and even then he would only give to someone who is very dear to him. (14) _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, That was a excellent explanation.
Now stanza 15.......
Aatipriyaya Tadapi Diyate Kvachidev Hi Niyatartha Pradanen Tadiyatayam Tadashrayaha (15)
Aatipriyaya : To some very dear devotee
Tad : That
Api : But
Diyate : Been given
Kvachidev : Sometimes
Hi : Is
Niyat : It is sure
artha : Wealth
Pradanen : By fulfilling
Tadiyatayam : According to set practice
Tadashrayaha : There refuge _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pratyekam Sadhanam Chaitad Dwitiyarthe Mahan Shramaha Jivaha Swabhavato Dushta Doshabhavaya Sarvada (16)
Sharavanadi Tataha Premna Sarvam Karyam Hi Sidhyati (161/2)
Pratyekam : Both, Shiv-Vishnu’s one
Sadhanam : Means of salvation
Chaitad : to achieve
Dwitiyarthe : to give other goals/ pursuits
Mahan : great
Shramaha : strain
Jivaha : Human souls
Swabhavato : by nature
Dushta : faulty
Dosha: full of impurities
bhavaya : To get rid of impurities
Sarvada : always
Sharavanadi : resort to listening of godly discourses
tataha : then
Premna : with love and affection
Sarvam : everything
Karyam : to do
Hi : with that
Sidhyati : is acheived _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
My apology in late posting of these stanzas. Sorry.
Quote: | Aatipriyaya Tadapi Diyate Kvachidev Hi
Niyat artha Pradanen Tadiyatayam Tadashrayaha (15)
Pratyekam Sadhanam Chaitad Dwitiyarthe Mahan Shramaha
Jivaha Swabhavato Dushta Doshabhavaya Sarvada (16)
Sharavanadi Tataha Premna Sarvam Karyam Hi Sidhyati (16 1/2) |
Aatipriyaya : To some very dear devotee (most loved and deserving character)
Tad: That (that is for one's person use only)
Api : But
Diyate : Been given (this value of giving is famous and if it not given then it is known as going against the character).
Kvachidev : Sometimes
Hi : Is
Niyat : Here it mean as per regulation (niyam Purvak), according to set practice, Moksha is given as per once pursuits (Pursharth). For most loved devotee, Shiva gives Moksha and Vishnu bestows Bhog. This is the way both Shiva and Vishnu favours the most loved devotees. Since Shiva's greatest assets is liberation and Vishnu's great joy is
artha : Wealth
Pradanen : By fulfilling
Tadiyatayam : According to once relative belonging to that religion (to belong to some one in that sector).
Tadashrayaha: Their refuge, that is salvation, refuge to either Shiva or Vishnu.
Pratyekam : to each, Shiva to Shiva-Vishnu to Vishnu. Vishnu and Shiva have their specific practices that their followers adhere to in order to attain their respective rewards
Sadhanam : Means of salvation
Chaitad : to achieve
Dwitiyarthe : to give other goals/ pursuits
Mahan : great
Shramaha : strain
Jivaha : Human souls. Shree Mahaprabhuji describes Jiva as Dev (Demi Gods, Danav (demons) and manav (human)). In His defination of Jiva Shree Vallabh explained the as follows:
The Jiva which has 24 elements and these are:
1. Shabda (words)
2. Sparsh (touch)
3. Roop (beauty)
4. Raas (ability to enjoy)
5. Gandha (Smell, aroma)
6. Satvik(swabhava)
7. Rajas (swabhava)
8. Tamas (swabhava)
9. Akash (Sky)
10. Vayu (atmosphere)
11. Tej (light)
12. Jal (water)
13. Pruthvi (earth)
14. Chaksu (sight)
15. Ras na (taste)
16. Ghrana (Brain)
17. Kshotra (hear)
18. Tvak (Feeling joy)
19. Hasta (hands)
20. Charan (feet)
21. Vani (voice)
22. Payu (Guda)
23. Upastha (ling, urethra)
24. Mana (mind, "heart")
So from 1 to 5 are called Panch Tanmatra, from 6 to 8 is called Gunn, From 9 to 24 is described as Vikar. (Vikar is also divided into Panch Mahabhto (9 to 13), Panch Gnanandriya (from 14 to 1 Panch indriyo (19 to 23). And Manna is the 24th, on its own. All these 24 elements are in combine state is known as Ling-deh (earthly body) with Chetna (agility) and Budhi (intelligence).
Swabhavato: by nature (Within the above 24 elements, the Ling-dev consist of Sharirabhiman (pride for the body they have) and this pride constitutes the character AND NATURE (swabhava)
Dushta: faulty. Here the fault that are described are instigated above any one of above mentioned elements or all of them. These dushta could be by avidhia (ignorance or not having proper knowledge), kaam, karma and vasna (lust). These types of dushta do not make this devotee a favourable devotee.
Dosha: full of impurities. These impurities hinders devotee's natural progress towards being tadiyatva (to belong to, that is Shiva or Vishnu), and it also hinders Tadashrayaha (surrender) to them (Shiva and Vishnu).
bhavaya: To get rid of impurities. So to get rid of these impurities...
Sarvada: always. One always has to...(without thinking about one's life span)...
Sharavanadi: resort to listening of godly discourses.(these discourses are done by sabda (words), Vakiya (phrases), arth (meaning) and ashay (intention)).Theses discourses are know as navdha bhakti (shravan, kirtan, smaran, Padasevenam, Archana, vandan, dasiya, sakhiya and Atmanivedanam)
tataha: then (after above navdha bhakti, that is not all nine but as per Anaya-Shastra, combination of three (shravan, kirtan and smaran) and of five of the above bhakti} suffices the progression into getting rid of impurities (sins, Dosha).
Prem na: with love and affection. With Shastra deliberation of this navdha bhakti instigates Prem na (with love) that is priti (love) towards the deity.
Sarvam: everything
Karyam: to do. The Karyam, the deeds that has the element of Tadashrayaha and tadiyatva, which is (for sure) what one has will achieve.
Hi: with that. (For sure)
Sidh yati : is achieved.
Summary:
Since Shiva's greatest asset is liberation and Vishnu's great joy is His enjoyment with Laxshmi, Shiva gives enjoyment while Vishnu awards liberation. Both rewards those who belong to Them and have their refuge. Shiva and Vishnu each have their own specific practices that their devotees adhere to in order to attain their respective rewards. If either Shiva or Vishnu have to give something that they are not accustomed to giving, then it is very difficult for them to do that. Jiva are by their very nature impure, full of sins. In order to get rid of these impurities, these Jiva should practice navdha bhakti and other appropriate spiritual practices. With this practice one becomes addicted with the deity and love will spring from this. Everything becomes accomplished when love arises. So this way, know that liberation is easily attained from Vishnu and similarly, enjoyment is readily acquired from Shiva. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, thanx for the beautiful explanation and there is a no need to appologize. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Thank you Unnatiji, now can you please put rest of the Balbodh stanza that is upto 19 1/2. Please post it at your leisure. Thank you in anticipation. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 5:44 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Mokshastu Sulabho Vishnuarbhogascha Shivatstatha (17)
Mokshas : Salvation
Tu : That
Sulabho : Acheived through Happiness
Vishnuar : Through Vishnu
Bhogas : Worldly physical emetics which is described above
Cha : Or
Shivats : Through Shiva
Tatha : In the same way
Samparpanenatmano Hi Tadiyatam Bhaved Dhruvam Aatadiyataya Chapi Kevalaschet Samashritaha (18 )
Samparpanen : Through Dedication
atmano : Of one-self and belonging
Hi : Is
Tadiyatam : That one becomes firm
Bhaved : Happens
Dhruvam : Is sure
Aatadiyataya : Aim to complete belonging to God
Cha : And
opi : But
Kevalas : Only
chet : While
Samashritaha : With complete refuge in GOD _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Tadashraya Tadiyatva Buddhai Kinchita Samachret Svadharmamanutishthen VaiBharadvaigunyamanyatha (19)
Tadashraya : Refuge in GOD
Tadiyatva : Aim to complete belonging
Buddhai : To have such thinking
Kinchita : Some
Samachret : Always think
Svadharma : Self duty
Anutishthen : Doing
Vai : Decide
Bharadvaigunya : Double load
Anyatha : Otherwise
Ityevam Kathitam Sarva Naitagyene Bhramaha Punaha (19 1/2)
Ity : Like this
Evam : In this way
Kathitam : It is said
Sarva : Everything
Naita : Not this
GyaneBhramaha : Misgiving in respect of this knowledge
Punaha : Again
I have tried my best to translate but if at all i'm wrong, Please feel free to correct me. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh
and Jai Shree Krishna
Thanks for the word breakdown. You have done very well so far. I am sure you have taken lot care in putting these words on Tibari. Unnatiji, I will soon post my next posting. Thanks again for your help. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:49 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, thanx for the kind words. But Infact i thank you coz you made the treatise of Balbodh very easy to understand by giving a word to word explanation. Please do it as per your leisure. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Here is the final post on Balbodh. Thank you Unnatiji for the help and I hope everyone has enjoyed this lovely granth.
Quote: | Mokshas tu Sulabho Vishnuarbhogascha Shivatstatha (17)
Samparpanenatmano Hi Tadiyatam Bhaved Dhruvam |
Aatadiyataya Chapi Kevalaschet Samashritaha (18 )
Tadashraya Tadiyatva Buddhai Kinchita Samachret |
Svadharma manutishthen Vai Bharadvaigunyamanyatha (19)
Ityevam Kathitam Sarva Nai atagyane Bhramaha Punaha (19 1/2) |
Mokshas : Salvation
Tu : That
Sulabho: Achieved through Happiness
Vishnuar : Through Vishnu
Bhogas : Worldly physical emetics which is described above
Cha : Or
Shivatah : Through Shiva
Tatha : In the same way
Samarpanen : Through Dedication
atmano : (of Jiva, Soul)Of one-self and belonging. (see above, a full definition of Jiva is described in our previous posting)
Hi : Is
Tadiyatvam : That one becomes firm. Tadiyatvam means the surrender of a soul and then this soul becomes firm in belonging to the surrendered personality. In other words, stay with that personality with whom you surrendered and then firm the bond of relationship of surrender and be faithful to the personality. (Please note, here in the stanza (1 the word used Aatadiyataya means the opposite of Tadiyatvam.)
Bhaved : Happens
Dhruvam: Is sure (for sure).With firm assurance. The total surrender of soul can only be acquired by Shravanam and not any other 'sadhan, and with this Shravanam bhakti one gets a firm Atmanivedanam, that is for sure.
Aatadiyataya : Aim to complete belonging to God is with Tadiyatva with Shravanam Bhakti, Path and Puja does not firm the Atmanivedanam, so the aim to complete belonging is not Aatadiyataya, that is not fore sure and the bond seems to be not that firm.
Cha: And
Opi: But
Kevalas: Only
Chet: While (if it was there, while...)
Samashritaha: With complete refuge in GOD.( In all aspect refuge to God and one should think God is his saviour and no one else)
Tadashraya: Refuge in GOD. He is my only saviour.
Tadiyatva: Aim to complete belonging.
Buddhai: To have such thinking
Kinchita : Some (that is with Tadashraya, Tadiyatva and Buddhai, some only gets Diksha according to its adhikar.
Samachret: According to one's ability (adhikar) one will become firm in Tadashraya, Tadiyatva and Buddhai, so one attempts to do this with that in mind, so always think in this concept. This way according to ones ability one becomes very firm serving God and also establishes strong bond of belonging.
Svadharma: Self duty (with Varnashram dharma, that is ones birth right of belonging self duty which depicts one's destiny).
Anutishthen: Doing
Vai : Decide
Bharadvaigunya: Double load (when one does not follow Svadharma of Sva Varnashram dharma then the being of being non religious and also on ones character (swabhava) instigate double load of sin). And because of Bharadvaigunya, it makes difficult to receive salvation.
Anyatha: Otherwise (if you don't follow Svadharma, then you will have to carry double load of sins, that is Bharadvaigunya).
Iti: Like this (one is making it more difficult to get salvation from these two (Shiva and Vishnu) deities.
Evam: In this way
Kathitam: It is said
Sarva: Everything (this includes one's dharma and sidhant of others as well).
Nai: Not this
Atagyane: and when one becomes knowledgeable about one's dharma and sidhant of others..
Bhramaha: Misgiving in respect of this knowledge.
Punaha : Again. - Here one should read as," Even though. One becomes knowledgeable about one's dharma and other's sidhant, any misgivings in respect of this knowledge is not possible.
Summary:
Shiva and Vishnu each have their own specific practices that their followers adhere to in order to attain their respective rewards. If theses two deities (Shiva and Vishnu) have to give something that They are not accustomed to giving, then it is very difficult for them to do that. As souls are by their very nature impure, in order for them to become free from these impurities they should have a total surrender. With surrender, the soul then attains Tadiyatva (belong to Him) and should practice devotional listening and other appropriate spiritual practices.
A devotee or rather a practitioner certainly attains the exalted position of Tadiyatva when there is Tadashrayaha (self-dedication). If divine state of Tadiyatva has not arisen, then one should seek His shelter and observe at least some dharma practices that are prescribed for that particular stage of life. When one does not follow Svadharma of Sva Varnashram dharma then the being of being non religious and also on ones character (swabhava) then one's burden will be two-fold, and because of Bharadvaigunya, that is, the spiritual state of belonging has not been achieved nor has the merit of proper action, it makes it double difficult to receive salvation.
In lokik Moksha Shastra, Vaishnav tantra is the best, and Shree Krishna has said about this Karma Yog.
In the closing remark (stanza 19 ½ ) Shree Mahaprabhuji said:
By understanding all that I have said in this teaching, confusion concerning the pursuits (Pursharth) of life will never arise
|| eti Shree Vallabhachariya viranchito Balbodh sampurnaha || _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, thanx for the beautiful explanation. And thanx for your support to describe word to word. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:33 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Thankyou Pusthidasji and Unnatiji, for completing the Balbodh, am grateful for the effort and hard work you both have put.
From reading the above stanza I understand we are full of dosh and the only way that we can minimise our faults is by doing navda bhakti and completely surrendering to the deity you have faith in. After surrender ship you will start feeling a sense of belonging and love for god will increase
Jena Cho tena thai ne rhjo
So Pusthi souls belong to Purna Purshottam and we must totally devote ourselves to him and have complete faith, also carry out our worldly duties without hesitation. It’s seems impossible to get rid of all our sins as all these 24 elements are part of our earthly body and surrender-ship is the key, without that you will not feel a sense of belonging and will not be able to obtain that closeness with Thakorji
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
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