Krishna Seva

[jagdish]

Prasang - 13

Prabhuna Naamthi Ke Maalajina Sparsh-thi Pan Vastu Prasadi Thay Che (One can utilise Lords name or touch the Malaji to turn something into Prasadi (to purify something)):

One Vaishnav ran out of charanamrut, hence he fasted. When this news reached Shriji, Aap said that when you had Maalaji around your neck then why did you not touch the maalaji to the food to turn it into food and take it as prasad. (sparsh kari-ne prasadi kem na lidhi)? Why did you stay hungry ? On one hand Mala is prasadi, has the touch of Shri Ang and also is a devotee.

You are wearing it around your neck in its transcendental form, therefore one can offer purify the food by offering it to them as both maalas are charanamrut. (beu maalaa charanamrutmaa siddha thay)

Vivechan – Prabhu is Bhakta-Vatsal (Prabhu bhakt-vatsla che). Knowing that the devotee is hungry, Prabhu would be saddened. (Bhakt-ne bhukyo jaani pote dukhi thay che). Therefore, at times like this one should be mindful about Prabhus happiness, and the honour of the sampraday.
(Mate Ave vakhte prabhuna sukhno vichar karine deergha-dhristi vapri sampradayni mendne baadh na aave tem prasad levo). Prabhus name is also the same as His svaroop (Prabhunu naam pan svaroop-atmak che). Prabhu accepts non-offered items through his name when one takes His name in front of those items (such as non-offered foodstuff) (Koi asamarpit vastu paase prabhunu naam deta pan prabhu naam rupe pan aroge che).
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Jagdish

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Jagdishbhai Yes I am enjoying the prasangs but have a question which some vaishnavs always put forward.
Many vaishnavs just have misri bhog seva or they even do offer milk and dry fruits and sugar too. So can they just add little prasadi misri or sugar in what ever they cook for themselves and that becomes prasad?

Or even if they add same to any food ?

As they dont do Sakhari Bhog for their Shri Thakurji.

Looking at the above prasang it seems ( Yes) ?.
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[gopal]

Jai Jai ShriGokulesh,

This was a beautiful hasyaprasang, bhaavakt by jagdishbhai. Even if we recal a vaarta prasang, once shrimahaprabhu came to vrundavan, here one of aapshri's sevak (sorry i don't remember the name) shrimahaprabhuji gave aagyna to have prasad, so he blissfully replied, krupanath, i haven't taken bath, so how can i take, then shrimahaprabhuji said that in vraj every thing is alaukik, Daale Daale venudhari patre patre Chaturbhuj dhari is residing, and aapshri gave divya-eyes to him so he got this alaukik darshana. But it is not so for all of us, as it is not the rule . .

I referred this here as i just clicked this prasang after reading the alaukik importance of ShriMalaji which was been saveed by Chaturthkumar Shrimad Gokulnathji Prabhucharan. So showed the importance of the ShriMalaji. But it should again not be a rule that those who r not taking samarpit (like me) should follow such part and leave the alaukik siddhant behind, which was been given aagyna by ShriMahaprabhuji.

Now Vasantbhai to ur question's answer that in siddhant rahashya ShriMahaprabhuji gave aagyna in 2nd sloka

"Nivadana tu smartayam, sarvatha tadrashairganaihi

Sarveswarashcha sarvatama, nijachataha karishyati
"

Remembering the words and meaning of the Brahma Sambandha (mantra that dedicated {nivadanam} you to the Lord) in the company of godly devotees, know that the Lord is omnipotent and omnipresent. The Lord is independent of all universal laws and will hence do as He pleases.

Sarvesham prabhusambandho, na pratyakamiti sthitihi

Atonya viniyogapi, chinta ka svasya sopichet


Everyone is related to the Lord, including your friends and relatives. Don't worry if anyone is not as devoted to the Lord as you would expect them to be. Through your surrender to the Lord and His absolute will, they too will turn to the Lord, so don't worry about others' spiritual fate

And in siddhant Rahashya granth,

Nivedibhi summerpaiya, sarva kurya ditisthiihi
Na mantam devadevasya, saami bhuktam summerpanam. 5

Those devoted to me, after having taken the Brahma Sambandha, must offer up all their actions and fruits of their deeds un-to me. Lord Shri Krshna, God of all the gods, should never be offered anything that has already been offered to others, or used by others

If this clears, then no doubt remains for doing unwanted things like just adding little prasadi misri or sugar in what ever they cook for themselves and that becomes prasad.....Which is ardhbhukta,.

...............................,sarva vastu summerpanam
Dattapahar vachanam, tathacha suckalum haraeh.

Therefore, a devotee must offer everything to the Lord before beginning any project (this includes the "desire to do the work", all the physical objects required to do the work) and also the fruits (success or otherwise) of the work to the Lord. Some sects believe that those things offered up to the Lord are Lord's possessions and can not be used by them. But this is not the view of the Pushti Marga. All things must be offered to the Lord before utilising them yourself
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
Baroda

[jagdish]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Gopal Bhai, thank you for joining in and making such elaborate contribution.

The Hasya prasang that follows, prasang 14, highlights the same. This is a short one and i will try and post this one in the next couple of days.

Here we are asked to consider the tat-sukh of Shri Thakorji first, before our own. However, if one can be so bold to say, that in our case this only applies if we have taken the discipline/ the take/niyam etc of always accepting samarpit vastu (food etc), then Shri Thakorji will always be worrying about us because we are always worried about Him... It works both ways... So, in this example i think the answer is yes, provided that the vaishnav devotee is of the same calibre and has reached the same level as to deserve such an exception...Also, the devotee should have realised the transcendental nature of the malaji and the Naam of Shri Thakorji, as there is no difference between Him and His Name.

Often we find that we (generally speaking, please don't mind the language) use this as an excuse to take shortcuts in daily life. So i think we should be careful not to fall for the trap, and we should try to maintain the discipline required to follow Shri Mahaprabhuji's siddhants. However, as we see in the varta prasangs and in these hasya prasangs, there are always going to be exceptions where Thakorji's comfort is concerned.
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Jagdish

[jagdish]

Prasang - 14

The Touch of Malaji converts anything into Prasadi (Maalajina Sparshthi Vastu Prasadi Thay Che):

Then one time Ravji bhai Umarethiyo and suraj lost their path on the way to the camp and they forgot the charnamrut in the camp. (vali ekvaar Ravji bhai Umarethiyo ane suraj maragma kaflathi vikhuta padiya, charanamrut to kafla ma rahyu.) They met-up (found each other) on the following day, therefore without charnamrut they fasted. (Teo, bije dahade bhega thaya, aathi charanamrut vagar be upvas thaya.) When the news of this reached Gokalbhai, He questioned based on the above incident (prasang 13) that why did they not take the charanamrut of malaji and why did they go hungry?
(Aa vat Gokalbhai aagal kari. Tyare emne upar pramanej kahyu ke malaanu charanamrut shaa mate na lidhu ? Bhukhya Shaa maate rahya ?)
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Jagdish

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,

Thank you Gopalbhai and Jagdishbhai for answering my question and the flow of satsang is so goooooooooood------

So let me only sing two lines from Namavali.

Shri Gokulpati ji na je che bhakt swaroop rase je Aati anurakt
Kariya suh-gaman Prabhuji ne sath Ahone charne nami math------------
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[jagdish]

Prasang - 15

From Anyashray, One Gets the Opposite to the Desired Fruit (Anyashraythi Viprit Phal Male):

One day, someone asked Shri Gusaiji, that normally when one receives mani (pearls, etc) it is considered good. Ek divse Shri Gusaijine koie puchyu, ke manina aav-vaathi rudhu thay, Then how is it that now it has happened just the opposite.(te to ulto bhundu thayu !) At that time He said that because the mind diverted from Shri Thakorji over to the mani, this opposite thing happened (Tyare pote kahyu ke shri thakorji uparthi chitt ghatyu ane mani upar shraddha thai aathi viprit thayu.)

Vivechan – That which reduces our focus (mind/thoughts from Thakorji) does not do any good. (Je vastuna aavathi prabhu uparthi chitt ghate te vastuthi kadi bhalu thay nahi.). Contrary to that, money is maya/materialistic (Vadi dhan-e maya che.). Because this maya arrived one became mayavi (materialistic minded) and therefore forgets Prabhu and continues to hanker in maya/dhan. (Aathi te aavta mayavi thai-javathi prabhu-ne visri javay che ane dhanma-j takraro raheli che.). Sankadik Rishis also forgot Prabhu when they visited Vainkunth they had forgotten after seeing the glamour of the Sfatik Manis and their minds got occoupied in admiring these manis. This is the reason why Jay and Vijay had stopped them from entering the gates of Vaikunth. (Sankadik rishio pan vaikunthna sfatik manina kot joine prabhune bhuli gaya, ane te jovama chit lagi gayu, aa karanthij jay and vijay-e temne vaikunthma jata khalya hata.). Therefore those things which cause our minds to waver away from Prabhu should be considered as the cause of sufferings. These things are demonic (not transcendental /Aasuri). (Mate je vastu-thi prabhuma-thii chitt uthe, te vastuno sang dukh-dayak che -em janvu, te vastuj aasuri che.)
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Jagdish

[Sital]

Jai Shree Krishna

Thankyou, Jagdisji & Vasantji for translating these varta's in English, there is so much to learn from these Prasangs, please do carry on as we are all reading them.

JSK
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Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
Sital

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Jagdishbhai, waiting to see more so please add at your convinience.
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[jagdish]

Prasang - 16

The Relationship of the Soul is the Only True One, As Opposed to that of the Body (Sharir-na Sambandh Karta Aatmano Sambandhaj Kharo Che):
One day (He) said that Chaturbhuj Shekhar, a Saraswat Brahman was Shri Gusaiji’s sevak. One day Akbar praised him. At that time Birbal said that he is actually my servant, why are you praising him ? Akbar asked Chaturbhuj Shekhar.. “have you served birbal?” and to this he replied that he has never served anyone except Prabhu.

Vivechan – A bhakt may do the service in order to maintain his body or living/livelyhood (Urad poshan ke nirvah maate), but his soul only serves and is the servant of Prabhu. For the sake of social pleasantries a bhakt may have relationships in many places, but the relationship of the soul is only with Ishwar. His speech sings glories of Prabhu. Dayaram bhai also had the same discipline (pratigya) , only to sing glories of Prabhu and of no one else.
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Jagdish

[jagdish]

Prasang - 17

Saffron/religious robes/uniform is a Bhakt’s socializing/living (Bhagva-Vesh Ai Bhakt-no Nirvah Che):
One king of Madhavghad, king Vanghelo Ramchandra was such involved in Dharma (Religious practices), that he would bathe everytime he debated/taked with a foreigner (mlechha). His father’s name was Veerbhan. This Veerbhan always had great desire (was always looking forward to), to meet Shri Mahaprabhuji. Once upon a time Shri Mahaprabhuji arrived at the Purushottam Kshetra (an area of land called Purushottam) for the second time. At that time the king came in the path and made a lot of request.
Shri Acharyaji was sitting as always wearing his dhoti and uprana. This king was always accompanied with pandits, he had come with all of them. These pandits asked a cleverly crafted question (with slyness). Because Mahaprabhuji had on himself, Mala, Uprana and Upvit, the asked what is all this ? Therefore, at this time, Shri Mahaprabhuji replied, that all this is Nirvah Shruti, Smruti and ShriBhagvat.

“Upavit Ved Uparna Puran, Mala Bhagvat, E Tran Dekhay Khayu Muskit Vachan”

After this they again asked Shri Mahaprabhuji that (in the middle of the whole sabha) we have heard that you have done a discourse/elaborate explanation (tika) on Shri Bhagvatji. This is true(was the response). To this the pandits said, what is so difficult about doing a tika/discourse on Shri Bhagvatji ? To this Shri Mahaprabhuji replied; I have seen Vedas/Vedants , Shastras and Puranas, so none of them are as difficult (to digest/understand/learn) as Shri Bhagvatji. To this the pandits said; What is so difficult about Shri Bhagvatji ? to this Aap said that you (plural) are having a play at talking like this. Now Shri Mahaprabhuji said, please explain the meaning of one shloka to us. (When Shri Thakorji appeared). Atha Sava Gunopetakaalah Paramashobhane || Saying this he said that why did Kaal become param shobhit ? Maha Kanishtha Bhadarvo Maas (the month of Bhadarvo), on top of that it was the time of chaturmaas, Krushna Paksh (dark days of the month) Dakshanaayanan-na surya, Aatham (the eighth day), Ardhi raat ane Budhvaar (middle of the night and a Wednesday).

When Shri Raghunathji appeared, at that time every moment was a Rajyog (the most signs were seen and auspicious time according to all the astrological calculations), these kind of auspicious signs, etc were not seen during the appearance of Shri Krishna. So what is the use of such a time (aava Kaal-no Shu Upyog?) Shri Shukdevji to Shobhan (Alaukik Rupalo) Kaal Kahe che, hearing this there was an atmosphere of surprise (everyone was surprised). The pandits looked down out of shame, that they were not able to provide any answer to this.

Seeing this the king said, what will they know? They are great fools. Shri Mahaprabhuji, you please say/clarify. Then Shri Mahaprabhuji did some vivechan on this.

Hearing this (the vivechan), the king was most pleased; bowing down, he did a lot of stuti (sang glories), spoke with humbleness and intellect. At this Shri Mahaprabhuji was very pleased. With a lot of affection, He explained the meaning of one shloka of Shri Bhagvatji ; the explanation of the meaning of this shloka continued for six months and yet the explanation did not come to an end. The name of this king’s father was Veersingh dev. He was a great bhakti maargi and a lovable vaishnav. He did not have any arrogance (kai pan abhiman hatu nahi). This king’s story was told many times by Shri Mukh (Shri Mukhe kahi).

Vivechan - One does not understand Bhagvat-swaroop by panditai (empty knowledge), one understands this from this prasang. What appears simple on the surface is not simple from deep inside. Therefore, where possible one should always keep curiousness/inquisitiveness. Shri Mahaprabhuji is Saraswati’s husband, therefore He knows everything in every way. He is Nikunj Nayak and therefore is also Rasik. Therefore only with Aapshri’s Grace (Krupa) one is able to understand, somewhat, the deep meanings of Shri Bhagvat.
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Jagdish

[Sital]

Jai Shree Krishna

Thankyou Jagdisji, enjoying the explanations thoroughly.

JSK
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Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
Sital

[jagdish]

Jai Shri Krishna,

.... no need for thank yous. They are rough translations and i am glad to know that everyone is enjoying them.
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Jagdish

[Vasant Punjabi]

Jai Shri Krishna,

Excellent work Jagdishbhai, please continue_ _ _ _ _ _ _
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Vasant Punjabi.

"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."----

[jagdish]

Prasang - 18

One who has died with affection can come back to life (Sneh thi Marelu e Jeevit Thay):

Once Veersinghdev went to hunt deer; a king called Ramchandra who was his friend and of his own gnyati, also went with him. Ramchandra wore the deerskin and sat hidden. Veersingh gathered the deers and routed them all in a spot. This Ramchandra is also in this group of deers. At this time Veerbhan king shot the arrow at this group of deers, but he missed and instead Ramchandra who was disguised in deer skin got hit. Having been hit in this way, the life force (praan) immediately left the kings body. This arrow was laced with deadly poison. When the king came to know this condition he instantly went over to his friend. Upon checking the king discovered that his friend had no life air left (for breathing – hence he was not breathing). Seeing this, streams of uncontrolled tears started flowing from the eyes of the king. This type of crying made the life force to grow strong and return back into the friend. Hearing this, all the Vaishnavs were surprised; and Pancholi asked (Shreeji) as follows… .. Maharaj, we have heard that life has left someone with affection (someone has died with affection) but we have never heard that life returns with affection. Therefore Shreeji replied that in this there are many such things that, the cause of death also becomes the cause of living, one needs true affection (Sneh).

Vivechan – From this one comes to know that when kindness arises in a Bhagvadi then a dead can also return to life. This thing is absolutely true. Prabhu cannot see the tears of a Bhagvadi. Therefore, the reason with which a devotee has to shed tears, that cause of tears is immediately removed by Prabhu himself. This thing is of a very subtle (sukshm) type of thinking. Without experience it cannot be understood. However, it is possible to understand with faith. A jeev dies in affection and lives with (from) affection. In this case the jeeve is living because of (with) affection. The kindness of a Bhagvadi is the swaroop of sneh (affection/love), only that is why is living out of daya (kindness).
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Jagdish