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palna CEO
Joined: 04 Nov 2005 Posts: 241 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:52 pm Post subject: Moksh & Fal??? |
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Jai Shree Krishna Pyara Vaishnavs,
This is a joint question, queried by Sitalji, Trushnaji and myself....
Please expand on the different types of Fal and Moksh???
Thank you _________________ Prem Bandhan Ajab Gajab, Brahmaganth sami aa ganth, na tutai na chutai
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 624 Location: United Kindom
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:38 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Palnaji this subject is vast and one can write a lot. Not only it is vast but it is also very profound that to understand the differences of Moksha and fal one has to look at the desires of a devotee.
These desires of a devotee can be categorised in two sections, namely (1) Sadhan Seva and Niha Sadhan Seva. The devotee can choose which area he/she would like to harmonize with his/her desire.
Sadhan Seva
First of we must try to understand what Sadhan means. In it's normal literary meaning, sadhan means 'vehicle' and in vedic term sadhan means "deeds or activities that entails to acquire the desired result". So in other words when a devotee chooses this route, he/she is using a vehicle which will allow him/her to do seva which in return gives the desired effects or results.
The result in Sadhan Seva is limited to one's desire and thus one can only achieve what he/she sets out to acquire. In Sadhan seva the result is a reward after the required deeds or activities performed, and this reward is known as Moksha. So Moksha is limited to what Sadhan you have done and will last only till the desired effect wears out, that is, Moksha is a result of that activities which has been designated by Vedic rituals and once the ritual is completed, the result is weighed according to the performance and then measure to measure, Moksha is delivered.
So Maksha will only last to "desired performance" and after that the Moksha does not interfere with next rituals in which the desire of the devotee has changed. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:31 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shri KRishna,
Nice explanation Pushtidasji.
Let me add that this granth of Seva Phalam by Shri Mahaprabhuji also guides us the types of Fruits one can achieve.
So let me say it in short.
The Fruit on the accomplishment of the type of service rendered.
There are three fruits of service.
1)Aloukik Samarthae that is supernal capacity
2) Sayujae complete merger of soul with supreme
3) Viakuntha Physically serving God in Vaikuntha
So the understanding will be as follows
The supernal capacity is the prime fruit
complete merger will be medium fruit
body serving God will be ordinary fruit.
But the fruit for pushti jeevs (Path of Grace ) will be supernal capacity.
So seva/kirtan/satsang being a must for Pushti Jeev
Dear Vaishnavs please correct me on my errors if you find any. _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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