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Pushtidas Tibari Star
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 624 Location: United Kindom
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Kasumba Chaat |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Yesterday was the KASUMBA CHAAT utsava. Badhai to you all, although belated. What is Kasumba Chaat and who introduced this manorath and why? _________________ Dasa nu das
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Nirupa Tibari Star
Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 140 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Pushtidasji, Aapko bhi Bhadai.
I have read that Kasumba Chaat was introduced by Shree Gusaiji, after He finished 6 months viprayog.
Six months Viprayog is when Krishnadas Adhikari told Shree Gusaiji He could not do Shree Nathjis seva. For 6 months Shree Gusaiji lived at Chandrasarovar and did darshan of Shree Nathji from small window of the mandir until this was boarded up by Krishandas Adhikari.
Shree Nathji would send messages to Shree Gusaiji written on pana na bida. Shree Gusaiji would eat them after He had read the message. Shree Gusaiji replied to messages written on paper. Shree Nathji hid them in the Mandir. From these messages Nav (9) Vignapti was written.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
On this day Thakorji wears red (kasumba) vastra. Red is also anurag no rang.
I am sure there is more on Kasumba Chaat, so will wait for Pushtidasji and other vaishnav to explain the histrory of this manorath. _________________ Jai Shree Krishna
Darshan Abhilasi
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Trushna CEO
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna,
Nirupaji why was Shree Gusainji not allowed to do Shri Nathjis seva for six months? What did he do? _________________ Yadi Shree Gokuladhisho dhrutah sarvatmana rudhayi, tathi kimparambruhi loukikai vedikai rapi
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Sunita Punjabi CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 269 Location: USA
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Sorry to interrupt but sometimes I just feel like singing
Sub sakhi kasumba chaat hi manavo
Apne apne bhavan bhavan-me Lalhi lal banavo
Bivid sugand ubatno leke Lalan ubat nah-vavo
Uparna lal Kasumbhi kulhe abhushan lal dharavo
Yadi chabi nirakh nirakh vraj sundari mun mun modh badave
Lal lakuti kar murli bhajave Rasik sada gun gaa-ve. _________________ Sunita Punjabi
Mero to Aadhar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mere gale ko haar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mero to shinghar Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind
Ga-o Varamvar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind --------!!!!!!! |
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jagdish Tibari Star
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 635 Location: London, U.K
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
very nice....
please, would you also translate the nice words to the singing for us... _________________ Best Wishes
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Sunita Punjabi CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 269 Location: USA
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:06 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Thanks Jagdishbhai, will do the starting point but will request all to join in or will leave the rest for you to complete
Sub sakhi kasumba chaat hi manavo
Apne apne bhavan
Sub = all, sakhi = girl friends (Gopis), Hi manavo = to celeberate
apne apne = in your own, Bhavan = houses
All friends (or Gopis) please celeberate Kasumba Chaat in your own houses ------- _________________ Sunita Punjabi
Mero to Aadhar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mere gale ko haar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mero to shinghar Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind
Ga-o Varamvar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind --------!!!!!!! |
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jagdish Tibari Star
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 635 Location: London, U.K
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Trushna wrote: | Jai Shree Krishna,
Nirupaji why was Shree Gusainji not allowed to do Shri Nathjis seva for six months? What did he do? |
Jai Shri Krishna,
not sure about the entire prasang, but it had something to do with display of curse/anger due to events that occured in leela
... grateful is someone could enhance on this varta prasang... _________________ Best Wishes
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jagdish Tibari Star
Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Posts: 635 Location: London, U.K
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna
Thank You for making the start ...but i am not sure if i can do justice to it..
Where are all the rest of the "Tofani Group" ?
Lalhi lal banavo
-- use red colour for everything/cosmetics ? lipstick etc ?? *ehm*
Bivid sugand ubatno leke Lalan ubat nah-vavo
-- variety of scented ingredients give a bath to lalan ?
Uparna lal Kasumbhi kulhe abhushan lal dharavo
-- dress him in red ?
Yadi chabi nirakh nirakh vraj sundari mun mun modh badave
- is it yadi or yahi ? constantly seeing this chabi/face, all the gopis increase their ? in their minds ?
Lal lakuti kar murli bhajave Rasik sada gun gaa-ve.
-- the dhryushya of Lal (lalan) carring his cane/stick and playing the flute ...
Rasik (Rasik - Hari raiji ?) is always singing the gun (glories) _________________ Best Wishes
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Nirupa Tibari Star
Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 140 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Quote: | Nirupaji why was Shree Gusainji not allowed to do Shri Nathjis seva for six months? What did he do? |
One day Lalitaji did a manorath, and asked Thakorji to come to her kunj. Thakorji said yes and Lalitaji prepared for the manorath, made various samagree and then waited.
Thakorji was going to Lalitaji’s kunj when He met Chandravaliji. Chandravaliji asked Him to come to her kunj. He agreed but said can’t stay long because Lalitaji has done a manorath and was waiting for Him.
Chandravaliji delayed Thakorji by doing various manoraths whilst Lalitaji was waiting for Thakorji and feeling virah. Because Thakorji stayed at Chadravaliji’s for so long, He did not have time to go and see Lalitaji. When Lalitaji found out she said nothing but Shree Svaminiji said that Chandravaliji would feel the virah, like Lalitaji did.
Trushanji, that is why, on bhutal, Shree Gusaiji (swaroop of Chandravaliji) was told by Krushnadas Adikari (swaroop of Lalitaji) that He could not do seva of Shree Nathji.
Vaishnavs, please add more to this prasang or correct me if I am wrong. _________________ Jai Shree Krishna
Darshan Abhilasi
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jagdish Tibari Star
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Nirupaji thank you for giving details of the leela and the prasang.
what does this prasang teach us ? _________________ Best Wishes
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Sunita Punjabi CEO
Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 269 Location: USA
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Thanks Nirupaji for highlighting the event.
Yes Palnaji, Sitalji, Trushnaji and all please also do see the movie Krishnadasji (get it form Sarika!) which was directed by Goswami Balaks and it shows that Krishnadas Adhikariji was only following orders of Shri Thakurji and he did just that as it was the wish of Shri Thakurji.
Also the love for someone increases if one goes far away and one really misses him a lot and you feel the pangs of seperations. (Virah Bhav) _________________ Sunita Punjabi
Mero to Aadhar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mere gale ko haar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mero to shinghar Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind
Ga-o Varamvar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind --------!!!!!!! |
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Sunita Punjabi CEO
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shri Krishna,
Yes Jagdishbhai you almost got it all.
You are correct it should be
Yahi (not Yadi)chabi nirakh nirakh vraj sundari mun mun modh badave
Lal lakuti kar murli bhajave Rasik sada gun gaa-ve.
All the beautiful Vraj Gopis keep admiring Shri Krishna's face which increases their love for Him in their minds.
Shri Hariraiji glorifies Shri Krishna who is holding his cane and sings with his flute. _________________ Sunita Punjabi
Mero to Aadhar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mere gale ko haar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind
Mero to shinghar Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind
Ga-o Varamvar Shri Vallabh ke Charnarvind Shri Vithal ke Charnarvind --------!!!!!!! |
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Trusha Vaishnav
Joined: 05 Nov 2005 Posts: 48 Location: Coventry, UK
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Badhai to all vaishnavs on Kasumba Chaat today. _________________ Jai Shree Krishna
Vraj Bihari ki banu me vrajnaar
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
and
Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh
Badhai to all vaishnavs on kasumba chaat. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 987 Location: USA
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shri krishna,
Thanks for the reminder Trushaji. Hardik Badai to all vallabhi vaishnavs.
Raag Mulhaar
Mohan shir-dhare kusumbhi paag,
Tapar dhari kulhe shir sohat hareet bhoomi anuraag-------(1)
Tese-hi baniyo kusumbhi pichora chadi hath-me leene,
Karat keli Giridharanlal taha Parmanand rus-bhee-ne. --------(2). _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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