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unnati CEO
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: Siddhant Rahasya |
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Jai jai shri Gokulesh
For which disciple did Mahaprabhuji wrote the treatise of Siddhant Rahasya? _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
Unnati M. Kadakia
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
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Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh.
Unnatiji, Siddhant Rahashya (I call this Granth as "The Secret Of Pushti Principles", but I have also seen Shree Shyamdasji (Pushti Writer) named Siddhant Rahashya as "The Secret Doctrine), it is very difficult to say and as this Granth was written after Shree Gokulchandramaji gave direction to Shree Mhaprabhuji, our master, who was concerned about how divine souls can achieve their Blissful Lord during this impure age of Kaliyug.
In this Granth we came to know that the Foundation of His Path of Grace were established on that auspicious night, by the banks of Shree Yamnaji (The Yamna River) in the sacred town of Shree Gokul by Shree Krishna Himself. In this Granth Shree Vallabh reveals the secrets of soulful dedication and divine connection are revealed in eight slokas. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Vasant Punjabi Admin
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shri Gokulesh,
Unnatiji, are you looking for this that Shri Mahaprabhuji gave this granth to
Shatria Gopaldas Etoda?
(The conversation between Shri Thakurji and Shri Mahprabhuji were also heard by Shri Damodardas Harsaniji. Also, he was the first to receive the Brahma-sambhand.) _________________ Vasant Punjabi.
"Shri Vallabh Shri Vithal Sukh-kari naa-me nishpap thai nur-nari,
------Nitya Lila nitya nautam shruti na pame par."---- |
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unnati CEO
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:12 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pushtidasji, Yes i have seen Shree Shyamdasji's book. In this Granth Shree Vallabh reveals the secrets of soulful dedication and divine connection are revealed in 8 slokas or 8 1/2 shlokas.
Vasantji, i was looking for the same Shri Mahaprabhuji gave this granth to Shatria Gopaldas Etoda. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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unnati CEO
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Why did Damodardas Harsaniji said to Shri Mahaprabhuji that he heard everything but could not understand it? _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Please note this Granth was not written for anyone in particular, but for all the Jiva who were going to take Diksha in Pushtimarg. Unnatiji and Vasantbhai, please note that the first person to hear about this was Shree Damodardasji Harsaniji, and then the first Vaishnav who was given this Granth was Shatria Gopaldas Etoda.
So in theory this Granth was not specially written for this vaishnav. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Sital CEO
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Unnatiji, we discussed this sentence briefly in satsang last week as it’s an important phrase. When Thakorji came to see Mahaprabuji and gave the Brahmasaband mantra, Damodardasji was present and when he was asked what was said, he replied; I heard what you discussed but I didn’t understand. (Prabhu me saimbharu pan mane samaj na paiyri)The reason behind this is had he said that he understood everything then there would be no point in having Mahaprabuji as his Guru.
Hopefully Pusthidasji will expand on this point further tonight, and then one of us will elaborate on tibari
JSK _________________ Madhurkomalkant padavali namami
Sital
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 9:23 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri Gokulesh
Pustidasji, Thanx for the quick response and will wait for the furthur elaboration. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Jai Jai Shree Gokulesh
Unnatiji, when you say ...and will wait for the furthur elaboration. What is your manorath. Do you want to talk about Sidhant Rahasiya in its entire form? Please let me know. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, as sitalji said
Quote: | Hopefully Pusthidasji will expand on this point further tonight, and then one of us will elaborate on tibari |
I am waiting for this and then want to talk about Sidhant Rahasiya in its entire form that too word by word. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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The epitome of Sidhant Rahashiya
This Granth was written (by deduction of various events and evidence gathered by scholars) in Vikram Samvant 1549. (Present year is 2062, so by calculation, this Granth was written 513 years ago, per English calendar it should be AD 1493) We just celebrated Shree Mahaprabhuji's 529th birthday, so again by this dates we can deduce that Shree Mahaprabhuji was only sixteen year old when this Granth was written.
In this Granth we learn about Atmanivedanam (surrender of the soul), about Diksha that is received by Brahmasambandh sloka, we learn about asamarpit (non-offered) food to Krishna and Krishna seva without any expectation.
It was that lovely mid-night of Shravan Shukal month, the eleventh day of the month, the events that gave the birth to "Pushtimarg" unfolded. The event took place in Shree Gokul at Govind Ghaat. It is said that "Bhagvata Proktam" (Prominent religious grantha) are Shree Gitaji and Shreemad Bhagvatam, Shree Gitaji is shankshipta (short version) of Shreemad Bhagvatam. In Bhagvatam we see the explanation on Bhakti and Pushta Bhakti. Likewise, Sidhant Rahashiya is an extension of "Pushti-Bhakti-Sidhantrahashiya". So Sidhant Rahashiya can be depicted as "Shakshat – Bhagvad Proktam" an extension of Pushti Bhakti Marg, foundation of Pushtimarg, and it acknowledges the fact that we as follower can achieve that utmost Falam of Pushti Jiva, the Bhagvad swaroop anand.
We all know that according to Bhagvato-ukta, Shree Bhagvan gave Bhagvat to Brahmaji, then Brahmaji gave it to Naradji, Naradji then parted the knowledge to Vyasji, who then parted it to Shree Sukdevji. Raja (king) Parikshit ji heard the Bhagvatam from Sukdevji, Sutaji was also listening and then it was made available to Rushimunis, Sages and Hermits and finally with auspicious grace, Shreemad Bhagvatam was laid in lap of public at large, how fortunate! This was the tradition of lectures (vakta) and listener (shrota) and this way we got Shree Bhagvatam. History has amazing way to repeat itself, we hear Shree Gokulchandramaji (Form of Shree Krishna) appeared on the night of Shravan Shukal month, and gave this Sidhant Rahashiya to Shree Mahaprabhuji, then, this Rahashiya was given to Shree Damodardasji (Damodardas Harsaniji) as Brahmasambandh Diksha. This way Pushtimarg was established between Gurus (Shree Mahaprabhuji), Shree Gusainji (Vallabh Parivar) and the Vaishnavs, the triangular surrendership of Path of Grace.
....vadadhibhih sarvatha shraviyam te hi sanmargarakshakah |
(Shree Patraavlambanam)
Next we will talk more on the background of this Granth. It is vital that we learn more about these background before we get our brain in the gear to niti gritty of actual stanzas. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, thanx for the epitome of Sidhant Rahashiya. Now getting much eager to know the background of this Granth. _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: |
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Jai Jai ShriGokulesh
This is a beautiful granth, and Pushtidasji, m eagerly waiting for the week, when u will start flowing the granth of siddhant Rahashya. _________________ Jai Jai ShriGokulesh Parivaar,
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Pushtidas Tibari Star
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 12:59 am Post subject: |
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Jai Shree Krishna
Thank you Gopalbhai, I have cut short on background. So here is the winding remark on Sidhant background.
....vadadhibhih sarvatha shraviyam te hi sanmargarakshakah |
(Shree Patraavlambanam)
The above sloka is from Shree Patraavlambanam Granth. In this Grant Shree Mahaprabhuji was addressing the scholars.
Meaning:
The Scholars should always listen as they have the responsibility to protect the Marg (religion).
And by saying this, Shree Mahaprabhuji has really put quite a responsibility on Scholars, sages and hermits, this way the protection of religion is scholars, hermits and sages and through Vallabh's family Guru Diksha for Pushtimargiya followers, and then Aapshree bestowed Pushtimarg in the heart of Vaishnavs (Damodardasji). So this way we have a triangular responsibility bestowed by Shree Mahaprabhuji.
In Sidhant Rahashiya we learn about Atma Nevadan (Brahmasambandh), the reasons, the fala, the spiritual gain and purification aptitude for the soul. This was instigated by Bhagvan Himself (Gokulchandramaji), the act of surrender to Brahm was explained in this Granth. In this Granth, all the sloka and the sentences have been given by Shree Gokulchandramaji, although in these sloka one sees the felicitous, appropriate and well-chosen combination of felicity, great happiness and pleasure of surrender; we also see "panchakshar" mantra and Gadiya mantra. Due to the secret and tremendous secrecy of this Gadiya mantra, in writing this Granth, only explanation in words are introduced. Shree Damodardasji as Diksha to Shree Gusainji gave one and half stanza from this Granth. And in that he had covered most of Sidhant Rahashiya.
At the eleventh night in the mid-night, Shree Gokulchandramaji revealed the Rahashiya. It was on this night we also see the birth of Madhurastakam. We also see the events being unfolded in the history of Pushtimarg where Shree Damodardasji demonstrated that immortal sentence, Maharaj ! maine Shree Thakorjike vachan sune to sahi, per samajiyo nahi. Even today we hear from vaishnavs that "suniyo per samajiyo nahi." We are in the predicament.
As we did with Balbodh, I invite Unnatiji to put the first sloka of Sidhant Rahashiya and we take it from there. _________________ Dasa nu das
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Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Jai jai shri gokulesh
Pustidasji, thanx for the beautiful explanation.
Also thanx for explaning this treatise word to word.
Stanza 1
Shravansyamlepakshe ekadashyam mahanishi I
Sakshaat Bhagwataaproktam tadaksharasha uchyate II1II
Shravansya : Shravan month’s
Amlepakshe : Bright half
Ekadashyam : 11th day (Agiyaras)
Mahanishi : At midnight
Sakshaat : Appeared
Bhagwata : Lord himself
Proktam : Proclaimed
Tadaksharasha : Accurately
Uchyate : I(Shri Mahaprabhuji) am repeating here _________________ Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....Shri Vitthala Nam Vina Mantra Kya Thi Paou......Shri Vallabha Charan Vina Sharan Koni Jaou.....
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